SoWe do NOT know how true the above is. Certainly wouldnt seem deep enough for a Ohio, Virginia, Seawolf,Los Angeles. I am in the process of looking for this input; its been several years now and it may have all been thrown out Incidentally, the oil company seismic data had much data round the Fresno area if that helps any. + Tehachapi Ranch35 20 N., 118 40 W. 25 miles N.W. In 1928 directed the establishment of a Board of Officers to provide oversight of the storage conditions of explosives. In 1994, it ended its production mission and became Hawthorne Army Depot. They must have made the change in the past year or so. I took care of John Fialla, who was best friends with Phil Schneider. Anybody doing pre-deployment training for Afghanistan should be coming to China Lake, he said. The Naval Ammunition Depot Hawthorne was established in September 1930. It sank up to 26 feet and dikes had to be built to keep out the water. Lake Denmark, New Jersey, was blown off the face of the earth by a huge explosion at the naval ammunition depot there (in 1926), and Congress wanted to find some less valuable real estate for the new one. *********************************** nuclear powered, 2,000 degree Fahrenheit (1,100 Celsius) earthworm, And Austin was not thinking small. I sure there are many cavities dotting the desert floor, possibly leading to one another in a vast. (SSBN-733) USS Nevada (SSBN-733) off the United States East Coast on her commissioning day, 16 August 1986. A court of inquiry investigating the explosion recommended that a depot be established in a remote area within 1,000miles (1,600km) of the west coast to serve the Pacific area. The pictures appear to show a Type 093 nuclear-powered attack submarine enter a tunnel to an underground entrance located on Yulin Naval Base. Commander John W. Harvey, USN, with a total of 129 men (comprised of the crew, civilian technicians, and observers) disappeared without explanation. John revealed its the location and he thinks the Base Commander was pissed. reply posted on 2-9-2007 @ 10:59 PM by MountainStar, Melting Antarctica Ice Reveals UFO Underwater Base. 40. Located approx 125 miles north-northwest of Las Vegas and consists of the Groom Lake and the Papoose Lake Complexes. The Thresher was the LEAD SHIP or Flag ship in the worlds most advanced class of nuclear attack submarines. creating a huge underground installation. Just to the north of Hawthorne is Walker Lake. I'm sure there are large underground submarine pens, but tunnels from the pacific to HAWTHORNE nv, come on. John Lear was in the plane (photographing the location). Ft. the tunnel by the tunnel machine, where it will form a hard, glassy ARE YOU READY TO LEARN ABOUT THE THINGS THAT MOVE ABOUT BELOW YOUR FEET? Perhaps some of my readers have heard the same rumors that I have I dont consider myself a widow. the inventors are from Los Alamos, New Mexico. military tunnels in the United States. If it were 1600 feet deep that would put the bottom of the lake about 4600 feet above sea level. Just drive in; if there is a security guard on duty, just say Golf Course and youre in. Time to Google map some of these places and see if theres any strange things going on. Examples of present-day submarine bases include HMNB Clyde, le Longue (the base for France's Force ocanique stratgique), Naval Submarine Base Kings Bay, Naval Submarine Base New London, and Rybachiy Nuclear Submarine Base (near Petropavlovsk-Kamchatsky).. INS Vajrabahu and INS Satavahana are the submarine . Or did it? He told me that the techs that worked in the tubes were called tubemoles. advantage for the NSTM results from the combination of. It is a shame the US spends more on it's military then it does on education. The USS Fulton, commissioned on 7 December 1914, was the first of the Fulton-class submarine tenders. results in a favorable benefit-to-cost ratio of 8.5. According to our knowledge, the only nuclear submarines ever to disappear under mysterious circumstances were the U.S.S THRESHER and the U.S.S. Well, it looks like there may be something to it after all. Im here in Laughlin area and frequently drive back home to the high desert from the high desert, lol. Facilities include 178 Buildings and 2,427 Igloos. Security is contracted to a private company. As far as the tubes go, John, I have no doubt they exist, courtesy of nuclear tunnel boring machines that leave glass walls in their wake. The next two, F-3 and F-4 were built by Moran Brosthers in Seattle, Washington in 1912. on Navy Submarine Base Under the Nevada Desert ? Navy Submarine Base Under the Nevada Desert ? Bases The Underground War FULL UPDATE. An underwater craft from another nation engaged one of our subs in combat under California or Nevada. But as history has proven time and again, even the weirdest fantasies have their real-life counterparts. She then advised me that she should call the. It was reported to have been lost IN OPEN SEA ELSEWHERE to keep the American people in total ignorance and to justify an enormous pay-off to an eccentric U.S. billionaire (who died in recent years) for providing the fictitious recovery effort. Below is a chart on which I have drawn two lines representing these channels between Monterey Bay and Hawthorne. She waved me to turn around and jotted down my car license number. Many of the United States submarine bases were closed after the war.[1]. She refers to these caverns in the following words: Somewhere I got the idea that a big portion of Death Valley is located on a shelf of FALSE bedrock. Commander John W. The actual words of this woman, who was interviewed by Will Carson and Jeannie Joy two, I cant say for sure, but there WAS a Russian submarine spotted near there that day (that is, near where it REPORTEDLY vanished 220 miles off. The cost I love my husband very much. We have bunkers; we have multilevel tunnel complexes; we have vertical shafts just like youll find over there. glass-lined tunnel behind them. melted kerf and pass it to the rear of the machine for disposal by you for your help. In the absence of information fantasy takes winger, finbut nearly 50 years later C.F. least this amount is used in black programs, like those concerned tunneling activities. Mr. Lear We could always tell when something was wrong with each other. The community of Hamlet in New Suffolk, New York claims to be the first submarine base in the United States. "When we went out to sea, we took nuclear warheads on board and were ready to use them if ordered to," he said. Dont know if this is relevant or not.. The Devils Hole water level reportedly rises and falls with the tide, suggesting a connection with a massive underground sea below. I know people have disappeared while exploring Devils Hole. + Sierra Nevada Mountainsvery deep military base. A short time later Steve Fossettturns up missing. Floor Space. A certain type of earthquake would collapse all of it down to an enormous series of caverns that would open up into another Grand Canyon.. Im proud to show you a very cool sign of one of the biggest underground, I searched the forum before and there was no match for it. States. However, the depot was subsequently dropped from the BRAC list, and thus will continue to operate. During that time I have driven from Las Vegas to Reno many times and was always intrigued at the guard gate and sign just before entering the town of Hawthorne. Nuclear submarines arrive at bases for crew change, resupply and repairs. Many other types of TBMs are used by many government agencies, The Rock-Site concept also bore much in common with NASAs designs for underground moon bases. Kings Bay is the main submarine base for the US Navy. So it would seem. Puerto Rico? In The best known of these tunnels are two which protect the strategic submarine force. Thanks for the memory jog! In 1977, that number had been reduced to 117; security is contracted to a private company. machine gouges out as it bores through the ground or rock. On 16 October 1900, the USS Holland departed for her first port, United States Naval Academy at Annapolis, Maryland for crew training. A big enough lake and possible under water entrance into a lab area. cracks produced in the surrounding rock. tunnel lining (see the appropriate detail in the patent itself, as Fort Huachuca. The Air Forces development of underground silos, subways and central commands produced real-world hardware and experience with construction techniques. Support Project Camelot - make a donation: Thank Maybe one that goes to Las Vegas? San Pedro and San Diego also were not designated submarine bases. Navy Submarine Base Under the Nevada Desert ? In 1984, after nearly 50 years without a major mishap, one of the storage bunkers exploded. Your tour ends at the Walker Lake Country Club, where a beautiful 9-hole golf course (open to the public) was the best-kept military secret in America for 50 years. Most tunneling activity is under These two movies were filmed recently in Hawthorn NV. large tunnels in rock by progressive detachment of the tunnel He is now living quietly in retirement and asked that no details pointing to him be revealed as he does not want publicity and government attention. (a) a Its always like this out here. I thought he was going to add, in heaven. The photo, first posted online by Radio Free Asia, appears to show a Chinese Type 093 Shang-class nuclear-powered fast-attack submarine at Yulin Naval Base on Hainan Island in the South China Sea . close to those for TBMs, if operating conditions for TBMs are var sc_project=2343767; The Navy Sub Base in Nevadamight have thought. tunneling cost analysis is thought provoking. Three of the tunnel locations are fully instrumented with weather stations and environmental sensing equipment inside and outside. Take a look inside. The three tunnel And because the terrain is so rugged, he added, the trip often involves a flat tire or two. Hawthorne Army Depot is located in the west central part of Nevada close to the California state line. Maybe it was an elevator that went down to the level of the Pacific Ocean that extends under California and Nevada. Why are they rushing to do this? . of United States Air Force tunnel boring machine at Little Skull Also, because of recent international events which may have resulted in a solution to this problem. Maybe, for some reason, the Navy uses that underground ocean (actually its not an underground ocean its the same level as the rest of the Pacific, it is the land that is above water so to speak) to travel around. One incident which tends to confirm the fact that California is in fact floating on the ocean was a story which made the headlines in recent years. underground tunnels and chambers, Little Greys or "EBEs", and He stated that the caverns do NOT exist. The need for US submarine bases was created with the completion of the first submarine USSHolland launched in May 1897. Submarine bases that had limited or no land facilities used submarine Tender at the advanced submarine bases. There is something mythic and compelling about seashore scarps and naval basessomething drawing on archetypal imagery of treasure concealed in cave waters open to the sea. I have seen copies of, Since publishing our article on the vast cavern. nuclear reactor. In the United States there's at least, by conservative estimates, a quarter of a trillion to a half a trillion of illegal drugs just sold in the United States that goes directly into underground budgets, and 90-95% goes to the DUMBs [Deep Underground Military Bases]. The United States Navy built permanent and temporary submarine bases around the world to maintain its fleet of submarines and serve the needs of the crews. The Thresher was the LEAD SHIP or Flag ship in the worlds most advanced class of nuclear attack submarines. Melting Antarctica Ice Reveals UFO Underwater Base. It is uncertain whether the retired Navy Officer who John J. Williams spoke of was referring to the THRESHER or the SCORPION, although the disappearance of the Thresher probably caused more publicity at the time. The rock-melting drill melts the rock. NUWC stands for Naval Under Water Command on the map. The first patent, in 1972 went to NOTE (clarification): I believe the secret Navy Base at Lake Tahoe exists because a Navy SEAL freind of mine, who would have definately been in a position to know, told me it was there. Per John Lear: the Naval Undersea Warfare Center in Hawthorne Nevada access the West Coast using underground elevators and train. What is being passed off as the San Andreas Fault are large, unsupported chambers that are in the process of collapsing. A short time later Steve Fossettturns up missing. The passageways are labyrinthine with widths from a few to thousands of feet (caverns), averaging roughly about a 100 feet. Beginning in September 1930 and during World War II, 600 Marines were assigned to the facility. The base, which is located near St Marys in Camden County, Georgia, is the home port for the US Navy Atlantic Fleet's Trident nuclear-powered submarine fleet. The heat is supplied by a compact nuclear reactor that circulates (b) formation of both Comparing the cost of using NSTMs to Some of the caverns (in S. California) are topped with oil while some others are filled with gases believed to approximate our atmosphere (in very ancient times). Navy Submarine Base Under the Nevada Desert ? Maybe it was an elevator that went down to the level of the pacific ocean that extends under california and nevada. Construction began on Hawthorne NAD in July 1928, and NAD received its first shipment of high explosives on October 19, 1930. The base is now a museum and Tarariyev, its director. Over the past 20 years I have heard stories of a huge U.S. Navy submarine base under the desert in Hawthorne Nevada. So. 2 Cocaine Bear Isn't the Only Animal Getting High 3 Amazon Has So Many Clever. ************************************Another Post from John Lear : I remember going to the Grand Canyon caverns last year and they said it ran some 20 mile to Grand Canyon the Colorado. the machine is intended to excavate tunnels up to 12 meters in 2. hole liner. I dont believe my husband is dead. INDIA'S UNDERGROUND SUBMARINE BASE & 20 NEW SUBMARINES: TOP 5 FACTSPROJECT VARSHAIntroduction:A new naval base being developed under Project Varsha for the I. reply posted on 2-9-2007 @ 10:59 PM by MountainStar Presently, there are 129 deep Also, because of recent international events which may have resulted in a solution to this problem. By Hans M. Kristensen. This reduced the need to return to permanent bases farther away. On April 10, 1963 (according to official reports) the Thresher, under the command of Lt. Much like dry caverns do, heights and depths vary a great deal and in some cases, two or more caverns or passageways pass over or under each other at different depths. He is now living quietly in, Williams explains that not all of the areas in question are actually resting or floating on the ocean, however there are allegedly many subterranean, 6. There are 2 routes from Monterey Bay south of San Francisco to the submarine base under Hawthorne. Ill try and get some good photos. 290 N 116W. the tunnel face. In 1995 Day & Zimmermann/Basil Corporation, Radnor, Pennsylvania, was awarded a $5,487,390 modification to a cost plus award fee contract for the operation and maintenance of a government owned/contractor operated facility. There really wereand aresome strange ideas deep down in the sea. materials against the excavation walls to provide, when some of its heat. hollow out more than 13 deep underground military bases in the United Its a five-minute drive out of town to the north, but instead of continuing to Walker Lake Hawthornes fourth and grandest wonder turn west into the Base. This was once the headquarters for the US Navy Ammunition Depot and is now a minor paradise enjoyed by its residents and by visitors alike. Located in Balaklava, in the Crimean Peninsula, lies a former top-secret military base. Underground Bases listed by State ARIZONA 1. Just north of Fort Ord. too. A 1971 study discussed various methods of sea-floor excavation, but by then most man-in-the-sea development was classified. The Gulf War brought more good times to Hawthorne, and the base now under civilian management is bulging more than ever with munitions. A huge underground facility where the exchange of technology takes place. I believe one is used for each direction, one going in and one coming out. the coordinates are 35-416.16N 117-4135.12W. the study found that the tunnels in the 15 ft. to 20 ft. diameter These have been explored via nuclear submarines to several hundred miles inland, particularly in the region of southern California and the southern Oregon northern California area. The abstract describes: A tunneling machine for producing Or did it? demonstration cost of $100 million over an eight-year period operating a nuclear subterrenes. She was designed to operate deeper and more silently than any of her predecessors and was also endowed with significant advances in sonar equipment, in. or are being used, for subterranean tunneling is a question I cannot SCORPION. SoWe do NOT know how true the above is. He definitely cannot be labeled as a crackpot, lunatic or publicity-seeker. Very likely all three conceptsinvulnerable bastions, space outposts and ocean baseswould have shared solutions to issues ranging from environmental control to crew morale. Per John Lear: the Naval Undersea Warfare Center in Hawthorne Nevada access the West Coast using underground elevators and train. It was in this environment that C.F. The A.A. Mathews Construction and leaves behind glass-like walls. There's 132 under the United States, an average of 5.36 to 7.24 cubic miles in size at an average of 1.5 to 4.5 miles underground, built, by and large, most of them in areas away from geotectonic areas - but there's going to be lots of new geotectonic faults established when you have force 11, 12, 13, 14 earthquakes hit the Earth. presently answer. Most of the entrances lie just off the Continental Shelf (ie. Then again there is the possibility of similar aqua-caves leading inland from the base of the continental slopes of the EAST COAST Branton) only I cant imagine how even the Russians could CAPTURE a vessel like the Thresher without leaving the slightest evidence!, The following account, concerning an area just east of BISHOP (OWENS VALLEY), CALIFORNIA, was related by Val Valerian in his LEADING EDGE Newsletter, Dec. 1989 Jan. 1990 issue. large tunnels in soft rock or wet, clayey, unconsolidated or Once a month, our reservists go out and do a data sweep, Manofsky said. Several books have been written http://www.americansouthwest.net/california/death_valley/ubehebe_crater.html, More Cave and Tunnel Entrances of the America's. [1] In 1975 the National Science Foundation commissioned another cost Note that the material sent to us for this article was written by someone of very high repute whose credentials I personally checked out.Due to an agreement with him, I cannot reveal his identity. [8][9][10], The current US Navy fleet of nuclear submarines never need to be refueled. making a glass-lined tunnel of 40 ft. in diameter or more. In 1995 Day & Zimmermann/Basil Corporation, Radnor, Pennsylvania, was awarded a $5,487,390 modification to a cost plus award fee contract for the operation and maintenance of a government owned/contractor operated facility. Some of them look exactly like Afghan aqueducts.. So, in features. deflecting the molten materials against the tunnel walls to Austin of the China Lake Naval Ordnance Test Station proposed the Rock-Site concept: manned undersea installations excavated into the rock of the seafloor. One of the monuments is an underground, formerly classified submarine base that was operational until 1993. Fulton class was followed by the Griffin Class in 1941, Aegir-class in 1943, Hunley-class submarine tender] in 1962, Simon Lake-class in 1964, L. Y. Spear-class in 1970, Emory S. Land-class in 1974, Emory S. Land Class in 1979. Most of the entrances are too small for submarine investigation; and many that are large enough lie in waters that are too deep. with deep underground military bases. The USS Pike and the USS Grampus completed in 1902 were built in San Francisco, California. including the 'nuclear powered TBM' [NTBM] that melts solid rock As late as the 1960s, Navy technicians and their families at Point Sur monitored undersea listening posts used to track Soviet subs. And maybe if you go deep enough there is a huge part of the Pacific Ocean in which the Navy conducts Undersea Warfare training. In 1980, HWAAP was redesigned as a government-owned contractor-operated facility. melted rock both as a lining for the hole and as a dispersal in Recent research on hardened missile basing concepts have proven various techniques for creating submarine-sized structures in hard substrates. Just pick up the phone and call the DOE or Los Alamos just be prepared to answer WHY you want to know, The documents are all here if your afraid the site will bite too bad its where I store all the data and can organize it at MY expense and not use other peoples bandwidth, More Cave and Tunnel Entrances of the America's. 4. During that time I have driven from Las Vegas to Reno many times and was always intrigued at the guard gate and sign just before entering the town of Hawthorne. Theologically speaking, the possibility of a long-distance connection or communion on a deep, emotional level between a husband and a wife should not necessarily be consigned to the realm of the occult or psychic phenomena. capital rather than labor intensive system. Austins dream remains both sober and dazzlingly novel. I was going to ask her if there were any submarines parked underground but she was Army and I figured she probably wouldnt have known. shown in Illustration 41). Gotrox : Very interesting John. It was reported to have been lost IN OPEN SEA ELSEWHERE to keep the American people in total ignorance and to justify an enormous pay-off to an eccentric U.S. billionaire (who died in recent years) for providing the fictitious recovery effort. The article, titled: DEEP SPRINGS, CALIFORNIA, stated: Deep Springs, California is an area that is becoming known as the site for very strange events. I would very much like more information on this topic. (1969 dollars) throughout 1990. Hawthorne is on the main Las Vegas-Reno highway and serves as Nevadas gateway to Yosemite and the eastern Sierra via the Pole Line Road (Nevada 359) connecting with US 395 and the Tioga Pass. In May 2005, the facility was included on the 2005 Base Realignment and Closure list, with closure being recommended. Torpedo Boat Station, also was not designated a submarine base by the US Navy, being a private company with Navy personnel stationed there.[2]. The peak number of US submarine bases was during World War II, as the submarine was well suited for fighting in the vast Pacific War, often in enemy waters. Branton) submarine commander, who according to him, spent many years in the waters off California. Over the past 20 years I have heard stories of a huge U.S. Navy submarine base under the desert in Hawthorne Nevada. various other covert goings-on. By applying well-understood principles employed for decades by the mining industry, Austin proposed that large bases could be constructed and operated anywhere suitable bedrock occurred in the ocean, at any depth. On April 10, 1963 (according to official reports) the Thresher, under the command of Lt. He also told me about the TUBES, the Navy underground transportation system. Structures within the sea floor can easily be made large and comfortable enough to permit the quartering of crews and their families for extended periods of time, he wrote, and can be made large enough to serve as supply and repair depots for large submersibles.. Checking with gravity anomaly maps proved that there are large cavities under the ground in that area. I pulled across the road to the entrance just short of the shack a lady in Army uniform came over and told me I couldnt take pictures. Naval Submarine Base New London was commissioned in 1916 as a dedicated submarine base. Further, all but one of During that period, Balaklava was one of the most secret residential areas in the Soviet Union. She responded vehemently in the negative. I cant tell for sure whether or not these caverns and passageways exist or to their extents. Improbable? There are stories that California and Nevada sit on a shelf underneath which lies on an eastern portion of the Pacific Ocean. A court of inquiry investigating the explosion recommended that a depot be established in a remote area within 1,000miles (1,600km) of the west coast to serve the Pacific area. There Mitchells caverns but those are small but whose to say that a little bit of dynamite couldnt open it up to something even bigger. simultaneously forming an initial tunnel wall support by (We are deleting this section due to the possibility of undue stress and fear which may result from its disclosure. Or so it would seem. If the rumors are true, machines 4. percentage use of NSTMs to satisfy U.S. transportation tunnel be very cost effective, compared to conventional TBMs. In fact, his scientific background and reputation are impeccable. No, its not a matter of just not being able to believe it, to accept reality; I just cant get over the conviction that hes still alive somewhere. . Ryan and Kerry Cassidy 51, the Northrop facility in Antelope Valley, California (rumored bouldery earth by simultaneously detaching the tunnel core by The facilitys area 147,000 Acres (Leased/Owned) and .6M Sq. If a submarine where to make 33 knots the trip would take about five and a half hours. It is found throughout the vast majority of the planet. A friend of mine finally tracked the man down. conveyor, slurry pipeline, etc. On this Wikipedia the language links are at the top of the page across from the article title. Nuclear subterrenes work by melting their way through the rock and Williams continues: When he retired several years ago, in spite of about 10 years of intensive Naval study, the Navy had not gotten even a handle on their exacts and dimensions. It was built by base employees, four holes at first, and then two at a time until the ninth hole was completed 30 years ago. During its existence, Babbitt was assigned the ZIP code of 89416. on Navy Submarine Base Under the Nevada Desert ? Babbitt was a government housing facility in Mineral County, Nevada, United States. soil, actually vitrifying it as they go, and leaving a neat, solidly I have no reason to doubt the man. And where's this money coming from? 5. One response was from a retired (conventional submarine duty? Thanks john. Ubehebe Crater system contains several volcanic craters, cinder cones and ash hills, all relics from an explosive steam eruption about 2,000 years ago, when rising magma met an underground lake. That is why the Mega Search turned up NOTHING. liquid lithium from the reactor core to the tunnel face, where it Austin realized that even with mid-1960's technology, it would be possible to sink a wide shaft into the sea floor, seal and drain it, then use it as a staging area for further excavation. As I drove through Hawthorne I came upon the entrance to the Naval Undersea Warfare Center which is on the north side of the road I pulled over to the right and took out my, I asked her if I could sign up for a tour.